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Title: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Chems on February 12, 2008, 03:05:25 AM
Well youve provided the information I need to get me started so here it goes.

The Objective:

To create a 15"+ Digital Photo Frame with Hard Drive included that can be updated with USB or read flash or sony stick type memory cards. All to be encased in a super slim single wire only wooden enclosure for either wall mounting or use on a stand.

Secondary Objectives
To be able to update the hard drive wireless using WUSB or Bluetooth or even possibly Wireless LAN.

Ive got so far:

2.5inch 20Gb Hard Drive - This cost me £12 I think when I bought it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Chems-/th_HDD.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Chems-/HDD.jpg)

Ive also got this for 9.99 off ebay:

(http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/394204/3282901/0/1171327250.jpg) (http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/394204/3282901/0/1171327250.jpg)

Just hope its as good as billed, it plays back video and pictures so it should just do the job just fine!

And the main bit I havent yet got is the screen, Ive got a lead on a Phillips 18.1 TFT but at the moment I cant find out the specs of it.




Original Post:

Im intrested in making a LCD photo frame, Very easy once youve done a DIY cintiq, but I want mine to be able to have pictures loaded onto it an then left to change on its own. Anyone know of any type of technology I can use to read a USB pen drive and display it with out the need for a processor etc?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Switz on February 12, 2008, 03:40:15 AM
Im intrested in making a LCD photo frame, Very easy once youve done a DIY cintiq, but I want mine to be able to have pictures loaded onto it an then left to change on its own. Anyone know of any type of technology I can use to read a USB pen drive and display it with out the need for a processor etc?
If you have an old laptop just use that and frame it, but remember

GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND xD


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: robcat2075 on February 12, 2008, 08:39:29 AM
It's hard to imagine how you'd make sense of the data on the USB and drive a display card for the LCD without a processor.

Your easiest route might be to get an cheap micro-ATX motherboard that had built-in graphics.  But you'd still need to power it somehow...


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Drewid on February 12, 2008, 10:26:48 AM
There used to be a stand alone thing that would read a card and display it on a TV or monitor.

<Google>
SanDisk Digital Photo Viewer
http://www.instructables.com/id/EV3JKA71QJEP287IKA/


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Chems on February 12, 2008, 09:05:27 PM
Im intrested in making a LCD photo frame, Very easy once youve done a DIY cintiq, but I want mine to be able to have pictures loaded onto it an then left to change on its own. Anyone know of any type of technology I can use to read a USB pen drive and display it with out the need for a processor etc?
If you have an old laptop just use that and frame it, but remember

GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND xD

That is a useless suggestion, the thing would be huge. Thanks.



Drew thats exactly the sort of thing I was looking for, Ive seen really slim ones in the shops for about £85-100 that just take a USB pen or similar. Thanks!




Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Chems on February 12, 2008, 09:27:19 PM
I found the perfect Item,

http://asico.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008824829207/pdtl/HDD-portable/1001839476/2.5-inch-HDD-Multimedia-Player.htm0


Its on ebay for £23 and it has direct VGA output. That and a 17inch monitor all enclosed nicely and the BANG the grim is gone, I mean BANG and the job is done.


Prepare yourselves!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Switz on February 12, 2008, 11:32:45 PM
Im intrested in making a LCD photo frame, Very easy once youve done a DIY cintiq, but I want mine to be able to have pictures loaded onto it an then left to change on its own. Anyone know of any type of technology I can use to read a USB pen drive and display it with out the need for a processor etc?
If you have an old laptop just use that and frame it, but remember

GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND xD

That is a useless suggestion, the thing would be huge. Thanks.



Drew thats exactly the sort of thing I was looking for, Ive seen really slim ones in the shops for about £85-100 that just take a USB pen or similar. Thanks!



What are you talking about.
It would not be huge at all.
Smaller then a 17" monitor atleast.
Search Google.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Drewid on February 12, 2008, 11:43:53 PM
I was thinking it would be really cool to make a large hi-def digital photo frame.  I have stuff I'd like to do with it.



Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Switz on February 12, 2008, 11:49:08 PM
I was thinking it would be really cool to make a large hi-def digital photo frame.  I have stuff I'd like to do with it.


ANIMATED STAINED GLASS WINDOW!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Chems on February 13, 2008, 01:11:35 AM
Well this thing is tiny, 2cm depth. Im going to scout around for a 17inch or so sized screen and then make a wooden frame for it. Vanilla an the job is done! With a Wireless USB dongle it could also be wireless!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Switz on February 13, 2008, 01:16:24 AM
Well this thing is tiny, 2cm depth. Im going to scout around for a 17inch or so sized screen and then make a wooden frame for it. Vanilla an the job is done! With a Wireless USB dongle it could also be wireless!

Wow.
Chems' stupid comment of the day.

"With a Wireless USB dongle it could be wireless"

duhhhh


lol, Chems is makin me mad at him, don't blame me for fighting :P

It is like saying.
With a pen, I can write!!! lol


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Drewid on February 13, 2008, 10:45:02 AM
I was thinking it would be really cool to make a large hi-def digital photo frame.  I have stuff I'd like to do with it.


ANIMATED STAINED GLASS WINDOW!!!!!!!!!!

That too.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Chems on February 13, 2008, 12:30:30 PM
Well this thing is tiny, 2cm depth. Im going to scout around for a 17inch or so sized screen and then make a wooden frame for it. Vanilla an the job is done! With a Wireless USB dongle it could also be wireless!

Wow.
Chems' stupid comment of the day.

"With a Wireless USB dongle it could be wireless"

duhhhh


lol, Chems is makin me mad at him, don't blame me for fighting :P

It is like saying.
With a pen, I can write!!! lol

No Im pretty sure it could then be wireless, its similar to a external HD right? So If I put a Wireless USB dongle in the back of my HD rather than the wire, and my computer had the hub, Id be able to add files to the HD wirelessly? The only thing is the whole wireless USB technology is still a bit expensive at the moment. It has input for USB on that item. It would be something Id like to try. I wonder if it would be able to process higher res images.

Ive got a bid on ebay 9.99 ends in 3 hours so hopefully I will have one to test with soon then Im going to see if I can get a free monitor off some contacts.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Chems on February 13, 2008, 06:36:17 PM
I got the HD for 9.99, bargin!


I may be able to get this screen cheap: 18.1 inch phillips model no. 18L8025Q but I cant find any specs about it on the net, which doesnt bode well. Its obviously a little old.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: AndreZX on February 13, 2008, 06:58:03 PM
I got the HD for 9.99, bargin!


I may be able to get this screen cheap: 18.1 inch phillips model no. 18L8025Q but I cant find any specs about it on the net, which doesnt bode well. Its obviously a little old.

Wow, 18" screens are pretty rare. That'd make a nice big frame though.

And 9.99? That's amazing. Was that an ebay deal?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Drewid on February 13, 2008, 07:24:30 PM
I got the HD for 9.99, bargin!


I may be able to get this screen cheap: 18.1 inch phillips model no. 18L8025Q but I cant find any specs about it on the net, which doesnt bode well. Its obviously a little old.


Oooo... mustn't start another project till I've finished some off...


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Chems on February 13, 2008, 08:36:49 PM
Yeah I posted the link further up, its just the interface thing, you need to provide your own 2.5 HDD an I happen to have a brand new spare one so its all good except I cant find it.

Think I should get the 18.1 screen then I just wanna find out some info about it first.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Chems on February 13, 2008, 08:40:56 PM
I got the HD for 9.99, bargin!


I may be able to get this screen cheap: 18.1 inch phillips model no. 18L8025Q but I cant find any specs about it on the net, which doesnt bode well. Its obviously a little old.


Oooo... mustn't start another project till I've finished some off...

Didnt see your reply there, I'll lead the charge on this one Drew, someone already paved the way a little bit but I will keep a log an you can follow it. By my calculation it should work out like this:

HDD Enclosure and Interface Device - ebay 9.99 (£12 P+P)
2.5 HDD - £12 (Got mine of ebay a while ago 40gb I thinks)
18" LCD Screen - £20 (£10 p+p)
Wood to create frame and house - Call it a £10

Whole deal approx £80 with Postage and Packaging. Cost of 17" Retail Frame - £440 Saving of £360.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 13, 2008, 10:28:37 PM
Ive got a few more questions,


Firstly, who was it who made the VGA connection by hand so it was really slim? They soldered the pins to the wires. It was awesome bongoing.

Secondly, does anyone know if its possible to bend IR light using Optics to an IR Receiver?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on February 13, 2008, 10:31:35 PM
1 Can't remember and
2 yes, light is light. Mirrors or optical fibre ought to work.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 14, 2008, 12:01:18 AM
I actually had a little trial, I have this Technic model:

http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/images/8480-1.jpg

And it has fibre optics in it, I used it for a little test and it seemed to work ok. Because the HD is going to be mounted on the back the remote may not work very well from front on, so I was thinking of using a bit of fiber optic wire to bend the light around.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 15, 2008, 01:10:37 AM
I got a NEC 17 inch screen today. I actually need an LCD, so not sure if this is going to be used for the build or not. It needs to be taken apart to be cleaned anyway. I got it for a bargin from ebay. Good res on it for the price, Slim Line design. Ive got leads on another couple of screens, Im thinking 17inch might be too big.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 15, 2008, 04:10:13 PM
The Hard Drive thingy arrived today, Im mighty impressed with it. On VGA mode you get a good crisp clear picture its damn good. Hopefully good enough Its sort of hard to tell, Ive not got the greatest photos to test with and when I put it onto my 32 inch bravia it doesnt look so great, but on my 19" screen it looks fine.

Just awaiting a screen of suitable gentry to be stripped down, then into the woodworking shop for a frame and housing and its all done.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 18, 2008, 03:45:02 PM
I got my screen today, its really nice, I was going to use it for my desktop screen but its a funny sort of format, its like LongScreen or something. Its going out to get taken apart very soon.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Chems-/DSC00156-1.jpg)

Does a good res and runs well with the HD. Check my first post now for updated pictures.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on February 18, 2008, 08:41:19 PM
So what make and model is the HD thingy?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: AndreZX on February 18, 2008, 09:17:03 PM
So what make and model is the HD thingy?

I'd like to know this as well. I have a professor who would be most interested in this, and I wouldn't mind picking one up myself.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with in Built USB Reader
Post by: Chems on February 18, 2008, 10:37:58 PM
I found the perfect Item,

http://asico.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008824829207/pdtl/HDD-portable/1001839476/2.5-inch-HDD-Multimedia-Player.htm0


Its on ebay for £23 and it has direct VGA output. That and a 17inch monitor all enclosed nicely and the BANG the grim is gone, I mean BANG and the job is done.


Prepare yourselves!

Dont you read my posts. Sad very sad.

Search on ebay for Hard Disk Drive Media Player and you should find it. Cant recommend it enough for the price!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on February 18, 2008, 10:54:34 PM
Can it do crossfades between pictures? or play an animation very slowly?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 18, 2008, 11:09:32 PM
Can it do crossfades between pictures? or play an animation very slowly?

LOL


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 19, 2008, 12:53:27 AM
Yeah it can. It does those sort of slide changes like Powerpoint, horizontal bars and stuff. It doesnt seem to have a really slow function but changes perhaps every 5 seconds or so.

The only problem Ive got is the digital photos I have from my camera are awful. If any of you have a good few really high res pictures you want less than 6mega pixel put them here and I can try it with some HD stuff.


For what it is, its excellent, just provide a 2.5 inch hard drive and your away. This screen even has down facing VGA and Power Input and onboard brick. Im hoping I can slim the entire thing to about 3cm including the hard disk and everything. Im going to bind the 2 power cords out to one wire with 2 plugs on the end for pure simplicity, I suppose I could chop something up but it wouldnt work so well as they both have diffrent power, one has a transformer plug and the other is a kettle plug.

Watch this space!

But Ive got to finish my new desk yet. Ive made the surface and the bookcase for it, but I need the right colour stain to get the same pine effect as all my other furniture. Ive got a Mount on the way for my Bravia so thats going on the wall. Im currently sitting in a L shape surrounded by 3 screens, 2 Computers, an xbox and 7.1 surround sound! its like heaven!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: AndreZX on February 19, 2008, 01:14:20 AM
Oh, so it doesn't come with the drive... I was wondering how it could be so cheap.

Nice.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 19, 2008, 01:19:06 AM
Im offended you haven't read my posts!


I got mine for £12 off ebay. You could probably get one for nothing out of an old laptop.


I saw on ebay the same item but in a different design with a 120gb hard disk for £46 which isnt bad value really.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: AndreZX on February 19, 2008, 01:58:23 AM
Actually, I've been following the thread with what I thought was great interest.  ;D

I saw the links you posted before, but I wasn't sure if that was the one you ended up buying.

And I must've totally missed mention about the fact that it was just an enclosure.

Sorry!  ;)


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 19, 2008, 02:25:30 AM
Heheh Im only joking. Now Ive got all the parts Im ready to go, but I really need to finish my desk. I will keep a extensive build log here as its basically an LCD Strip and a bit of woodwork. Ive seen a few on the net and they are shite tbh, really large. Id love for mine to be able to be mounted like a picture, that would be cool.


The question I really want answered is if I attached a Wireless USB to this I would be able to upload new pictures wirelessly right? Let me just spill a bit of my brain.

The Drive is automatically recognized by any PC when you connect via USB, WUSB is just an extender for the cables. If I was to plug a WUSB adapter into this thing my computer should recognize the hard drive on the network and that would be it sorted? They are meant to work over the existing 802.11g network. Im not sure, I think just taking the frame to the computer once every now and then is ok really!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 19, 2008, 03:46:25 AM
Heheh Im only joking. Now Ive got all the parts Im ready to go, but I really need to finish my desk. I will keep a extensive build log here as its basically an LCD Strip and a bit of woodwork. Ive seen a few on the net and they are shite tbh, really large. Id love for mine to be able to be mounted like a picture, that would be cool.


The question I really want answered is if I attached a Wireless USB to this I would be able to upload new pictures wirelessly right? Let me just spill a bit of my brain.

The Drive is automatically recognized by any PC when you connect via USB, WUSB is just an extender for the cables. If I was to plug a WUSB adapter into this thing my computer should recognize the hard drive on the network and that would be it sorted? They are meant to work over the existing 802.11g network. Im not sure, I think just taking the frame to the computer once every now and then is ok really!
I am not sure, but I don't see a reason why not.  Maybe a drivers issue.  I do not know.

I would try making a steampunk frame.

That would be awesome!
Or an animated stained glass window.

Drew!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 19, 2008, 04:49:35 AM
I really need someone with some wireless kit to test it out with, I dont want to buy it and then it doesnt work. If it was bluetooth sort of stuff it would only have a 5meter range or so. Its probably not worth it really. I think in theory it would work but but but


Im going for a traditional wooden frame. Im hoping it will be used in my house properly so steampunk wont really go with the theme. As much as I love the whole BioShock art theme I dont think Id actually like anything steampunk in my house really.

If anyone has a Wireless dongle and the such and a USB hard drive can they test this for me please!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 19, 2008, 04:59:11 AM
I really need someone with some wireless kit to test it out with, I dont want to buy it and then it doesnt work. If it was bluetooth sort of stuff it would only have a 5meter range or so.
LIES!!!

There are 3 types of bluetooth.

One that is like 10 meters (No one uses this basically)
One that is 100 meters (everyone uses this)
And one that is like 1000 meters or something, ridiculous...

You can get a cheap 100 meter one for... well.. cheap :)


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: AndreZX on February 19, 2008, 06:34:00 AM
I really need someone with some wireless kit to test it out with, I dont want to buy it and then it doesnt work. If it was bluetooth sort of stuff it would only have a 5meter range or so. Its probably not worth it really. I think in theory it would work but but but


Im going for a traditional wooden frame. Im hoping it will be used in my house properly so steampunk wont really go with the theme. As much as I love the whole BioShock art theme I dont think Id actually like anything steampunk in my house really.

If anyone has a Wireless dongle and the such and a USB hard drive can they test this for me please!

You should be able to return it if it doesn't work, right?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 19, 2008, 09:36:23 PM
I really want this to be pure on the cheap build, Its something that could defiantly be added at a later date.

Would it be as simple as a Bluetooth dongle for my PC, and a Bluetooth dongle in the Hard Disk. Could that possibly work?



Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on February 19, 2008, 09:48:51 PM
Sounds feasable.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 19, 2008, 09:49:55 PM
Really?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on February 19, 2008, 09:53:14 PM
Well possibly.   I'm scanning through the drive specs trying to see what gives there.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 19, 2008, 10:02:20 PM
If anyone has a USB hard drive and 2 dongles, help a brother out!

The main problem I foresee is that the Hard drive USB requires 2 USB sockets, one for data and another for power. With a usb hub I can quite easily solve that thou but it means another plug required!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: AndreZX on February 19, 2008, 10:28:39 PM
If anyone has a USB hard drive and 2 dongles, help a brother out!

Switz is going to have a field day with the innuendo there.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 19, 2008, 10:31:03 PM
If anyone has a USB hard drive and 2 dongles, help a brother out!

Switz is going to have a field day with the innuendo there.
lol.
I will pass.... For Now :)

I would get one of those ipod chargers with usb and just cut the cable.

Or, try to get it right from the monitor.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 19, 2008, 10:56:01 PM
I think it cant be done. Belkin recently unvailed the Cable Free 4 port usb hub for about £150 not available in the UK yet.

Ebay US of the item:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Belkin-Cable-Free-4-Port-USB-Hub-F5U301_W0QQitemZ280199493415QQihZ018QQcategoryZ58301QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 19, 2008, 11:02:08 PM
I think it cant be done. Belkin recently unvailed the Cable Free 4 port usb hub for about £150 not available in the UK yet.

Ebay US of the item:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Belkin-Cable-Free-4-Port-USB-Hub-F5U301_W0QQitemZ280199493415QQihZ018QQcategoryZ58301QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
Complete ripoff.
I would try the two bluetooth dongles first.
You can get two for 15-20 USD.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 19, 2008, 11:05:07 PM
Im sure it wouldnt work, because if it did then whats the point of this new WUSB technology?



Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 19, 2008, 11:16:47 PM
Im sure it wouldnt work, because if it did then whats the point of this new WUSB technology?


$$$$$$$$


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 19, 2008, 11:45:35 PM
Lol, Im like 99.9% sure it wont work. Ive got one dongle, I will steal another an try it as soon as I find someone who has one.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 20, 2008, 03:19:07 AM
Ok heres the challenge, I need a Transformer of some type that takes Kettle Plug in and can output that to DC5.6v 2000mA preferably with an output that I can solder my own connection too.

Big enough for the challenge? Heres the kicker, this thing needs to keep my 3cm depth regs!


I think I may have found the item I need:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=48517&C=Maplin&U=SearchTop&T=Variable%20Power&doy=20m2

If I set that to 5v would it be ok? Im not so sure on this type of electronics!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 20, 2008, 03:25:12 AM
I have no idea....

Who here said they were an electrician or something
I forget  :o


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on February 20, 2008, 12:18:35 PM
That'll do fine.  Should be able to run it at either 5 or 6 volts. 5 might be a safer bet, though most electronics are built to have a few volts tolerance. 

I'm amazed at how small transformers have got over the last couple of years.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 20, 2008, 01:56:52 PM
That perfect Drew, Switz your obviously in the same camp as me the "Not so sure about Mains Electrical Camp!"

I shall purchase the item today, and some wood for the frame, Watch this space!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 20, 2008, 02:55:08 PM
That perfect Drew, Switz your obviously in the same camp as me the "Not so sure about Mains Electrical Camp!"

I shall purchase the item today, and some wood for the frame, Watch this space!
;D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 20, 2008, 06:58:20 PM
I got it all stripped down, the LCD is actually a Phillips LG screen.

I got the transformer plugged in at 5.5 and that works fine with the transformer.

Bought some really chunky door frame wood to be my frame, its got 6cm of depth and I need about 5.5 all in. Im stuck now thou as I really need a thin bit of ply wood to mount everything on behind the frame but forgot to buy any when I was out an its to late now. Its going to be a super build!

On design issue I have which Ive already solved is that I needed the Hard Drive to be put in in such a way that the IR receiver is visible to one side. But on the other side is the USB in port. So basically all Im going to do is run a USB wire out to one side and put a male to male adapter on the end and that will be where you plug in.

I had one scare, after stripping everything down I plugged it all back in and it didnt work. A Bit of investigation with my torch the image was showing but no backlights, it actually has 4 cables for the 2 lights which Id put in the wrong way round. Switched them around as it was away. I breathed a sigh of relief.

Ive got some pics, left the camera in the garage, off to get them now. Only managed 2.5 shots before the batteries died!


I forgot to say, the need for the transformer was so I could run only a single wire and plug out. What Ive done is used the transformer which takes a kettle plug and the screen which takes a kettle plug and just bought a Plug with a Y-Split with 2 kettle plugs on. 1.8 meter cable. Job done. That was a good brain wave I thought.

Here she is stripped down, unlike the Cintiq builds I can keep the metal casing for the backlights which makes it so easy. (A picture I took in NewYork on the screen at the time)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Chems-/Photoframe1.jpg)

The back, sorry I didnt get a picture of all the other bits but the battery died just then!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Chems-/PhotoFrame2.jpg)


Also take not of the nice desk the whole thing is on, its the desk I built after completing the Chemstiq because I need a space to work! I will get a few other pics, its really high such a great place to work.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 20, 2008, 09:38:45 PM
Nice job!

Thats a lot of boards :)


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 20, 2008, 09:44:22 PM
Yeah seprate Control and Inverter board which I expected but also the Power unit is obviously internal which is what I wanted. This screen couldnt be more perfect as its inputs are all mounted down so it saves space for me!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 20, 2008, 10:26:00 PM
Yeah seprate Control and Inverter board which I expected but also the Power unit is obviously internal which is what I wanted. This screen couldnt be more perfect as its inputs are all mounted down so it saves space for me!
Question

Why did you need to strip it really?
I guess if you want it as thin as possible.

Or maybe you just wanted to break it :P


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 20, 2008, 11:18:50 PM
Yeah I wanted it as thing as possible. Also I got it cheap on ebay because it had Thunderbugs stuck in the backlight paper sheafs.

My aim it to fit it in a wooden frame with no big casing coming off the back. The bit of wood I have is 6cm deep so it should just about fit. With any smaller screen it would look stupid but I think it will look ok. Im really limited to size due to the transformer for the HD and the Power Board is about the same height as well. But it will be good!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 20, 2008, 11:36:38 PM
Yeahhh!!!!!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 21, 2008, 02:05:48 AM
Morning is coming and with the morning updates.......


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 22, 2008, 11:24:59 PM
Im still on the lookout for the right bit of super thin wood to mount my kit on, havent had a chance to get into my local DIY shop to have a look but will tomorrow.


But, I posted pics people, only Switz has had a look!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 22, 2008, 11:35:55 PM
I could see chems lurking here to see if anyone has posted about his thing like every 20 mins lol


He is now bumping it over and over again so people look it at  ;D :D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on February 23, 2008, 12:05:11 AM
Photos where?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 23, 2008, 01:03:17 AM
Photos where?
Tssk.  Tssk. Drew...

http://forum.bongofish.co.uk/index.php?topic=1186.msg6545#msg6545


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on February 23, 2008, 10:44:40 AM
Oh I saw those, I was expecting a gilded frame and lighting :)


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 23, 2008, 05:48:40 PM
 :D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 23, 2008, 07:08:14 PM
Damn Im off to sulk. An check back every 20mins for replies!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 23, 2008, 07:58:56 PM
Damn Im off to sulk. An check back every 20mins for replies!
Told ya!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 23, 2008, 08:17:03 PM
Ooooo Reply!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 23, 2008, 10:14:18 PM
Reply #70 on: Today at 02:17:03 PM »
Reply #69 on: Today at 01:58:56 PM »

I'll be nice and round it up to 1:59. and 2:17.

Thats 18 minutes.

Wow....
LOL


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: AndreZX on February 24, 2008, 12:05:31 AM
Yeah, Chems. How about a little less community spirit, eh?

This is a forum. It's not a place for people who want to contribute ideas and comments and stuff all the time all willy-nilly, dude. If you have to chime in, PLEASE try to restrict yourself to once or twice a month, okay?

Jeez. Some people, huh?

Take a page out of ol' naspc's book. He knows how a forum is supposed to work.

 ;D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 24, 2008, 12:51:29 AM
Damn your so right!


But isnt it funky that screen working off just that little hard drive. I didnt get a chance to get into the DIY shops today.


But on a complete side note and I will hide it in here for the forum hard core that are visting my thread.

I had the honor to see my second 12WX today it came across my desk. It is been returned to WACOM as it has Jitters like you wouldnt believe! Its not that the pen jitters, its more like an FCC inside the case is loose and the screen is fuzzing in and out. Its really bad for a bit of kit that retails between 780-880!

But less of that heres the pictures. On the whole Im struck again by the pure sexyness of this unit, you cant see it in this picture but the back is apple white, and it looks great. The thing is sooo light its amazing and you can put it on your knee and just work away.

For me though its to small, but I do texture work, for people who actually draw its perfect!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Chems-/DSC02117-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Chems-/DSC02118.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Chems-/DSC02119.jpg)


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 24, 2008, 06:22:48 AM
Wait...
Did he really just post pics of a Cintiq that he owns.

Owning one is one thing, but owning it and posting pics up on the intrawebss!!

You literally deserve to be banned :P



and lol @ it braking.

I guess Chems is just like me, has to brake everything he touches lol.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: AndreZX on February 24, 2008, 06:41:52 AM
Read the post, dude. It's not his, it just came across his desk. If memory serves, Chems sold his 12" off a while ago back before he bought the bigger one. I admit I could quite possibly be wrong on that particular detail though.

And even if it were his, I can sympathize. I'm about ready to pitch my build out the window and just buy one myself.  Damn interference. ;D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 24, 2008, 08:58:13 AM
Yeah, but he did buy the 12".

He then sold it off, but he still bought it :P


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on February 24, 2008, 10:45:27 AM
It's interesting that they have to screen control stuff in a seperate box. 


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 24, 2008, 01:43:43 PM
Indeed I sold my 12WX as it was to small. I never even plugged it in to have a go so this is a first for me. Yeah this just happened to come my way yesterday and will be continuing its journey to the Cintiq scrapyard I guess.


The screen control box is a bit of genius drew, because basically its just the same as taking your Intuos 2 or 3 and putting it on your lap, it weights the same and has only 1 wire. Its a magical bit of kit! Except it doesnt work and there is some pretty big backlight bleed along the bottom thou.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 27, 2008, 11:09:29 PM
Sorry to bring this horrible thread up above the amazing MP5 thread but I spent about half my day working on this today.


Basically bad news, Id orignally wanted to avoid having to have a rear box to house all the bits, but after making the frame there was just no way its all going to fit. So Im having to build a box now on the back to house it all :( On the upside I can choose a nicer slimmer frame material, down side that last frame wood cost me £19!

But the LCD is fine after all its moving about.

I spent the other half of my day off making my new desk, gotta say its looking fantastic! Pics here tomorrow.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on February 28, 2008, 01:17:10 AM
Can't wait!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on February 28, 2008, 10:24:13 AM
What type/size of frame is that?  It was for an 18" screen?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on February 28, 2008, 02:02:54 PM
No I just bought some decorative wood, I routed the guides and mitered it myself.


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on March 01, 2008, 12:12:33 AM
Well its basically finished.

Im a right toss pot as I keep forgetting to take pictures. But in the end I managed to mount all the extra bits on the back and just bundle up the wires. I used the monitors own Plastic Back casing so it looks pretty good. From the front and sides it looks perfect. Next time Im using a Laptop screen thou!

Also pics of my new desk will be coming soon!

EDIT:

As both my projects will be pretty much finished, (bar varnishing the desk) Im in need of a new Project, I have nothing in mind. I really want to do something that involves building circuits on on of those programs and lots of soldering practice, I want something useful and cheap as well. Any ideas?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on March 02, 2008, 06:25:50 AM
Well its basically finished.

Im a right toss pot as I keep forgetting to take pictures. But in the end I managed to mount all the extra bits on the back and just bundle up the wires. I used the monitors own Plastic Back casing so it looks pretty good. From the front and sides it looks perfect. Next time Im using a Laptop screen thou!

Also pics of my new desk will be coming soon!

EDIT:

As both my projects will be pretty much finished, (bar varnishing the desk) Im in need of a new Project, I have nothing in mind. I really want to do something that involves building circuits on on of those programs and lots of soldering practice, I want something useful and cheap as well. Any ideas?
PICS!!!!
Also,
I told you about the laptop! :D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on March 02, 2008, 04:06:47 PM
Effects pedals can be fun if you're musical.      Or a lebedev keyboard perhaps? ;D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on March 02, 2008, 09:39:27 PM
Problem with laptop is poor viewing angle.

Ive been busy for the past 24hours, Fighting Fire, Fighting War then Fighting fire again. But pictures tomorrow I promise!

More suggestions for my next project please!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on March 03, 2008, 01:09:25 AM
Go Chems the Fireman!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on March 03, 2008, 10:19:35 AM
Desktop CNC machine?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: AndreZX on March 03, 2008, 02:45:08 PM
Desktop CNC machine?


I second that.  ;D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on March 03, 2008, 03:42:34 PM
Desktop CNC machine?


I second that.  ;D
Third :D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on March 04, 2008, 01:36:16 AM
To Expensive and difficult I feel!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Monarch on March 05, 2008, 11:31:06 PM
Here is a challenge for you. 8)

Create a large size cintiq greater than 18" with led backlights and programable buttons that are placed along the side of the build that can be adapted to use with various programs. Changing the program and incorporating the new button scheme automatically. As a bonus, incorporate a foot pedal that acts as a zoom function for drawing programs. Suck on that for a day and have a mock-up to me by Monday. :D.

Monarch




Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on March 06, 2008, 12:22:13 AM
To easy, I already did a 15 inch with the buttons an all a pedal an a bit of a custom program. Too easy. Your talking to a vet here.


I want something with Soldering to practice really. Something small, any cool mouse mods out there? Wireless perhaps?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on March 06, 2008, 01:13:02 AM
Simplest mouse mod.

Desolder the led on an optical. Replace led.

YOU WIN!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: AndreZX on March 06, 2008, 04:41:40 AM
Solder up some LED strips like mine, haha. That will get you some nice practice.

1 resistor per LED. 2 solder joints each for the LEDs and resistors.

I had 114 LEDs, so multiplied by 4 you get 456 joints. Add to that the number of PCBs I had to join by soldering wires, and the attached power leads for each strip, I'm probably sitting pretty at around 500 solder joints total.

Use 'em to, I dunno.... light up your car's glove box?


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on March 06, 2008, 05:40:17 AM
Andre, by the way.
I may want to buy a strip off of you :D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on March 15, 2008, 10:52:11 PM
Well its all finished and in place. Very nice it is too! My desk is up as well, will get pictures this evening and post them up!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Drewid on March 15, 2008, 10:56:00 PM
Hooray!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Chems on March 15, 2008, 11:26:07 PM
I got this today:


(http://www.screwfix.com/sfd/i/cat/07/p3514007_x.jpg)

Prepare for some serious wood working! My old desk is now getting recycled as my Router Table. Im going to mount my router upside down on it an put in some slide-able guides an stuff.


And as for soldering, I soldered on a new DC power connector to a Laptop Motherboard, when I was finished it looked like it had come out of the factory!


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build Log!
Post by: Drewid on March 16, 2008, 02:46:23 PM
Count fingers now, before you start. ;D


Title: Re: Digital Photo Frame with HDD USB Input Possible Wireless Upload 15" + Build
Post by: Switz on March 16, 2008, 08:11:14 PM
And remember.

You have 8 fingers...
and two thumbs...


That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard...  What am I talking about....

*Head Explodes*






Nice table saw btw.