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Title: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: Drewid on January 29, 2010, 03:36:18 PM
Well our new host has options for a couple of WIKIs built in.  It'd be a bit of a trek to start off with getting templates to suit and so on, but it would be SOOO useful for the frequently asked questions and the quest for jitterlessness*


I'm thinking that only registered users should be able to edit, (I have no idea how easy that would be.)
The first choice is between dokuwiki and mediawiki.   
Mediawiki seems to have a bunch of good plugins, and is probably the widest used (so less likely to have any bugs), but may be a little harder to use?
Docuwiki has neat text file storage and no database.

Any thoughts anybody?


*I like this word.


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: bernard on January 30, 2010, 08:55:59 AM
Wiki is good.  Make sure you hook a search engine to it (i.e. use google).  I would produce a few pages (spare time depending).

My first thoughts to MediaWiki for its feature list -- but DokuWiki seems simpler on the maintenance side. I think for your case, I would opt for DokuWiki right away.

They have tons of ways to hook for authentication -- if SMF uses a SQL database for its user list, then dokuwiki can use that (you might need to tweak the SQL statement, but I do not see this as a problem at all).



Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: Drewid on February 04, 2010, 02:32:03 PM
Wiki hurts my head ::)


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: bernard on February 06, 2010, 07:31:08 PM
 :P


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: random-jimmy on February 07, 2010, 01:59:15 PM
WIKIIIII!!!

And perhaps you could set up a few tutorials, and gather all the stickies into one spot, and get a gallery going of the best builds - generally showcase the bredth of the forums in one spot and make it more accessible.


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: Drewid on February 11, 2010, 02:40:32 PM
I've been bangin my head against the "get the wiki working properly" wall since I started this thread.   

I decided on DokuWiki.  Unfortunately the webhost provides an older version of this which doesn't work with current templates, so I updated DokuWiki to the latest stable that version.

It still doesn't work.

More digging.  Older versions of PHP have a bug that doesn't parse some bits of template code properly.  The latest version the host provides is 5.2  But that's still before the bugfix, (5.3.1).
I don't have the sort of lower level acces with this account that is needed to upgrade the PHP so I've asked their support guys if it's possible for them to do that.

If no then it'll be mediawiki


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: bernard on February 12, 2010, 05:05:34 AM
Your head must hurt.    :-[

To fix DokuWiki -- have you tried Duct Tape?  Does marvels on simtiqs.

ah well,... having to resort to mediaWiki... -- more powerful, more features and the most popular/biggest Wiki in the world... -- hum...  I think I can use that.


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: Drewid on February 12, 2010, 09:18:57 AM
Well, apparently  PHP 2.2.4 ought to be OK. So the reason it's not working is a mystery.

Oh good.   :-[


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: Drewid on February 13, 2010, 12:59:17 PM
It's always the permissions with linux/unix systems   ::)

So we have a wiki with a theme.   I've just got a few default things to replace, and get Bobs to rig up the registered user list from here.


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: bernard on February 13, 2010, 09:45:02 PM
OH MY GODNESS WE HAVE A WIKI!


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: bernard on February 13, 2010, 11:48:20 PM
Wiki logo is cool! Just tried to login using my forum credentials to start typing articles but I guess this "integration" is still to be done -- right?  I'm reading on Doku syntax right now.


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: bernard on February 13, 2010, 11:51:19 PM
to random-jimmy:  And perharps YOU could do just that! :) hehe.


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: Drewid on February 14, 2010, 12:14:21 AM
Yeah the proper registration will probably be Monday, but you should be able to do stuff now.  You're showing up in the @user group.


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: bernard on February 14, 2010, 04:45:18 AM
yeah -- I actually registered through the Wiki.  But I suppose this is a "temporary" procedure? 

Thanks for all the hard work and thanks again for bringing up a Wiki engine!


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: Drewid on February 14, 2010, 09:02:53 AM
I'll get Bobs to make it grok the user list here.   Though dokuwiki doesn't use SQL for it's data it can be made to read from an SQL database.


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: bernard on February 14, 2010, 11:52:44 AM
For the user list, yeah, doku wiki can do a lot of things. I just glanced through the list of available plugins.  ;D

Issue:
I tried doing something in the wiki: there seems to be an issue: if I create a page it works perfectly fine. But when I try to modify one, it gets "saved" (as you can see if you edit the page again) -- but the changes do not seem to appear -- you still see the "previous" version. The documentation clearly states that the changes should appear instantly after hitting save.  I am thinking either some sort of "confirmation configuration" or some sort of "caching" happening (wild guess).  For example, in the playground, I added a new sentence paragraph but it is not appearing.


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: Drewid on February 14, 2010, 05:20:02 PM
It's wierder than that.  I logged on as a user,  had a look in the playground,  went to edit the page and your sentence appeared.   So I added a sentence and it didn't show up.

I'll ask on the forums.



Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: bernard on February 14, 2010, 06:03:55 PM
yes -- editing the page shows the most recent page ---  but accessing the page normally does not show it.

Maybe a "caching" problem from the web host ? (Apache config).  Is this system installed by you or is it a bit supported by the hosting company?


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: Drewid on February 14, 2010, 08:19:32 PM
Hosting company, (servage).  I'll see what I can get to,  their customer service is pretty good as well.

The formatting seems to go missing occasionally as well.


Title: Re: Who's up for a WIKI?
Post by: Drewid on February 19, 2010, 02:49:50 PM
WEEELL I'm not getting anywhere useful with this. The Cache thing still doesn't work having tried a number of possible fixes suggested by the DW forums.  
I've asked on the forums at work as well, an office full of programmers, someone must be able to fix it.