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Screen Tablet malarky => Design issues => Topic started by: AndreZX on October 19, 2007, 08:30:35 PM



Title: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: AndreZX on October 19, 2007, 08:30:35 PM
Hey folks,

I know there have been a lot of people discussing using monitors that were larger than the sensor size (e.g. a 17" screen on a 12x12 Wacom), but has anyone actually completed a build this way?

If so, how annoying was it to work with? How do you personally work around it?

I'm looking at using a 22" screen (which would be about 11.66"x18.66") on a 12x18 Wacom, and I'm debating.
Should I go with the 22" and use a workaround to access the last 2/3 inch of screen space, or should I give up hope on the 22" and use a 20.1" instead?

I'm thinking that I want to stick with the 22" screen, and map the display area to the wacom 2 different ways. I'll line up the right edges of the screen and the sensor so that they're aligned on the right side. Then I'll map the right 17" of the sensor to the right 17" of the screen, 1 to 1. Then I'll map the remaining inch at the left side of the sensor to the remaining 1.66 inches on the left side of the screen. The cursor won't line up horizontally in the second section, but it should absolutely be useable for the limited amount of use that that end of the screen should see. Does that make sense?

I really don't want to have to stop to use a mouse for the last section of screen space, and this workaround seems usable to me. Any thoughts?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Drewid on October 19, 2007, 09:04:17 PM
The only person to use and oversized screen is Fl0s macbook.
The stretched section thing is an interesting piece of lateral thinking, that might work brilliantly.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: AndreZX on October 19, 2007, 09:32:39 PM
Thanks for the tip, Drew.

I would imagine I could test this pretty easily once I get my 15 incher up and running. I'll just play around with the mapping in that and re-create the scenario on a smaller scale and see if it's something I could live with.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: threedprof on January 31, 2010, 02:45:44 AM
i realize this thread is old but would like to revisit it since i'm thinking about building a "cintiq" tablet.  instead of using a 22" and falling short on filling out the sensor grid could you use a 23"?


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: bernard on January 31, 2010, 04:40:44 AM
There is another thread about this (will try to look for it).  Essentially if you have an "older" wacom you can do the special mapping to "stretch" the edges so everything is covered -- (you are just "progressively misaligned" near the edges). I say older because older wacom drivers allows to map multiple rectangular areas onto the *same* monitor. Something not possible with recent drivers alas.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: bernard on January 31, 2010, 05:04:50 AM
ok found the thread:

http://forum.bongofish.co.uk/index.php?topic=1512.msg9876#msg9876

In short: Intuos2 (or older high-end wacom boards, like the UD-* series for example) supports what is called "Advanced Mapping" which allows multiple mapping of the tablet onto the same monitor.  Intuos3 and later do not support it. That "advanced mapping" option simply disappeared. Quite annoying.

Take a look at the picture in the following page of the thread for a visual example of a mapping.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Drewid on February 01, 2010, 11:28:45 PM
I wonder how hard it would be to write a driver.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: bernard on February 02, 2010, 04:20:27 AM
This crossed my mind already -- not a small effort unfortunately. 

I am currently investigating (in my rare spare time) if I could actually "hook" (i.e. highjack) a WinTab implementation (Windows tablet drivers) to actually "re-map" screen coordinates (to do the 2:1 stretch on the edges).  If anyone is interested, we could start a thread (or a wiki page?).



Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: LurkinAroundFerIdeas on January 26, 2012, 08:56:15 PM
I'm a noob but have been lurking.  I've tried to learn enough to feel like I can join in.

Board member two7unsuited has apparently gone commercial, but has successful builds with larger screens than sensors.  He said about an earlier build:

"Wacom Intous 3 9x12   USED $246
Acer S211HL bd 21.5-Inch Widescreen Ultra-Slim LED Display     NEW $138
Fellowes Office Suites Premium Flat Panel Monitor Arm (8033801) NEW(DISCONTINUED)$34

I think I may be the only one, but I do DIY Cintiqs differently than everyone else. I use a screen that is much larger than the tablet, so that only the area in the middle of the screen is active. I do this for several reasons and believe strongly that this is the way to go."

Does anyone know how he uses smaller sensors than screens?  Bernard said that you can't advance map on newer (Intuos3) tablets.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: bernard on January 26, 2012, 10:06:59 PM
You can have a smaller tablet if you wish. It just means that you cannot access all of the screen, only the center (or whichever area you placed the tablet underneath).

The Advanced Mapping thingy using older drivers is a "trick" to reach the sides when the tablet is slightly smaller than the screen. Not practical when the tablet is way too small.

Note: this special mapping trick can also be done within WaxBee with the "anchors" feature (if you converted an old Serial or ADB tablet).



Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 14, 2013, 05:48:26 PM
Hello everyone!!! Nice to see that the DIY is still popular around here!

Just wanted to post a bit of info and hopefully get a solution here.

I have a Cintiq 15x which has backlights that have dimmed over time. So my solution was take out the sensor and toss it in to a 19 inch monitor and map the sensor location. The install worked like a charm! Samtiq (samsung cintiq) in the house! but.... I cant get the mapping thing in the new drivers and the old ones dont trick it to thinking its a compatible one with that driver. I am going nuts here! I tried the waxbee thing but seems like it doesn't detect it.

So just a run down. Cintiq 15x is 15 inches across, Samsung syncmaster 193p is 19 inches across. Both are 4:3. Cant calibrate because the cosshair is off the cintiq sensor. Cant resize the screen because the samsung has a auto resize feature.

Any ideas?? Any help would be appreciated! really want this to work and dont want to have to rip back apart!

Thanks everyone!

Keifer


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: bernard on March 16, 2013, 02:09:52 AM
Cintiq 15x -- Is the connection Serial or USB (the manual seem to talk about both)?  

You have a sensor that is much smaller than the LCD screen -- is this intended? (you won't be able to reach the edges with your pen).

You said you "tried" the WaxBee thing?  I assume you tried connecting the serial port. How did you do that physically?

If you know the serial protocol for this model (which is PL-550 if I recall correctly), we might see if it resemble one that is already in WaxBee and pick that one (maybe with minor modifications).   With WaxBee, you can do a special "Anchor" mapping which can allow you to have a perfect alignment in the center while being able to reach all the way to the edges for clicking buttons or menus (with the pen being unaligned in that region since you have to stay within the sensor area).

EDIT: I am not 100% sure, but it looks like PL-550's serial port uses "Wacom Protocol 4". Something WaxBee supports. It would be a matter of trying it a bit more to see what is required to make it work. If you really you were able to physically hook it up to a Teensy, then we are almost there!

EDIT2: I saw some driver that tries to auto-detect the tablet and looks for the letters "PL". In WaxBee, it will yield a "Tablet Unsupported" in "Debug mode".

Here the code that does this:

Code:
               // For now, only supports this "rigid" format:
                //
                // "~#UD-1212-R00 V1.5-4" (ends with /r)


                if(buffer[2] == 'U')
                {
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_ULTRAPAD;
                }
                else if(buffer[2] == 'K')
                {
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_UNSUPPORTED; // ARTPADII is with ROM 1.3
                }
                else if(buffer[2] == 'C')
                {
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_PENPARTNER;
                }
                else
                {
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_UNSUPPORTED;
                }

                if(buffer[15] != '1')
                {
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_UNSUPPORTED;
                }

                if(buffer[17] == '2')
                        romVersion = ROM_VERSION_1_2;
                else if(buffer[17] == '3')
                        romVersion = ROM_VERSION_1_3;
                else if(buffer[17] == '4')
                        romVersion = ROM_VERSION_1_4;
                else if(buffer[17] == '5')
                        romVersion = ROM_VERSION_1_5;
                else
                        romVersion = TABLET_TYPE_UNSUPPORTED;

                if(romVersion == ROM_VERSION_1_3 && buffer[2] == 'K')
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_ARTPADII;

...I can modify it to look for "P" (as in PL-550) and then we can add a new template for your tablet. Hopefully the rest will work, else I would need to hunt for some linux driver source code that supports PL-550 and see what they do special there.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 18, 2013, 04:56:31 AM
Cintiq 15x -- Is the connection Serial or USB (the manual seem to talk about both)?  

You have a sensor that is much smaller than the LCD screen -- is this intended? (you won't be able to reach the edges with your pen).

You said you "tried" the WaxBee thing?  I assume you tried connecting the serial port. How did you do that physically?

If you know the serial protocol for this model (which is PL-550 if I recall correctly), we might see if it resemble one that is already in WaxBee and pick that one (maybe with minor modifications).   With WaxBee, you can do a special "Anchor" mapping which can allow you to have a perfect alignment in the center while being able to reach all the way to the edges for clicking buttons or menus (with the pen being unaligned in that region since you have to stay within the sensor area).

EDIT: I am not 100% sure, but it looks like PL-550's serial port uses "Wacom Protocol 4". Something WaxBee supports. It would be a matter of trying it a bit more to see what is required to make it work. If you really you were able to physically hook it up to a Teensy, then we are almost there!

EDIT2: I saw some driver that tries to auto-detect the tablet and looks for the letters "PL". In WaxBee, it will yield a "Tablet Unsupported" in "Debug mode".

Here the code that does this:

Code:
               // For now, only supports this "rigid" format:
                //
                // "~#UD-1212-R00 V1.5-4" (ends with /r)


                if(buffer[2] == 'U')
                {
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_ULTRAPAD;
                }
                else if(buffer[2] == 'K')
                {
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_UNSUPPORTED; // ARTPADII is with ROM 1.3
                }
                else if(buffer[2] == 'C')
                {
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_PENPARTNER;
                }
                else
                {
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_UNSUPPORTED;
                }

                if(buffer[15] != '1')
                {
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_UNSUPPORTED;
                }

                if(buffer[17] == '2')
                        romVersion = ROM_VERSION_1_2;
                else if(buffer[17] == '3')
                        romVersion = ROM_VERSION_1_3;
                else if(buffer[17] == '4')
                        romVersion = ROM_VERSION_1_4;
                else if(buffer[17] == '5')
                        romVersion = ROM_VERSION_1_5;
                else
                        romVersion = TABLET_TYPE_UNSUPPORTED;

                if(romVersion == ROM_VERSION_1_3 && buffer[2] == 'K')
                        tabletType = TABLET_TYPE_ARTPADII;

...I can modify it to look for "P" (as in PL-550) and then we can add a new template for your tablet. Hopefully the rest will work, else I would need to hunt for some linux driver source code that supports PL-550 and see what they do special there.

Thanks for the reply!

So it USB. So maybe I have to install a virtual port? Then do the beeswax trick "p" letter to get the software driver to work.
That would be great! So what should I do on my side? Install the virtual ports.

The reason for the larger screen, is that is the size I had. Plus used 15 inch monitors are old and my luck the backlight will be dim. I could have bought a backlite online, but I just don't want to deal with ordering online. It was just a "try" this setup and I will use the extra space with my mouse or a midi controller for brush size and other setting.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: bernard on March 18, 2013, 05:19:58 AM
"Virtual port"?  I think you are misunderstanding some of the concepts.  Or I am completely not understanding what your are asking.

Quote
So it USB.

Not entirely sure what that sentence means.

-----------

Hum, so maybe let me try to explain with more clarity:

If your tablet is strictly USB (i.e. has no option to use a real serial connection) then WaxBee is not for you. Period.

WaxBee emulates a USB Wacom tablet but connects to the real tablet's serial port.  It essentially is a "Serial to USB converter" (exclusively for tablets). It cannot connect to a real USB tablet.  The Teensy/WaxBee sits between the tablet and the PC/Mac.

In case you missed this: WaxBee runs inside a small piece of hardware called the "Teensy". There is absolutely nothing running on the host machine (PC or Mac) other than a one-time configuration tool to setup the Teensy device. I mean, there are no drivers. The only thing running on the host machine (PC/Mac) are the standard Wacom drivers.

So... to be sure I understand your situation to help you out, can you answer these specific question?

#1- Is your tablet model number "PL-550" ?  Please state the exact model number if not exactly "PL-550".

#2- Does your tablet have a serial port connection (in addition to the USB connection)?  Maybe you could take a picture of the connectors and cables to help out.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 18, 2013, 09:02:50 AM
Tablet: Wacom Cintiq 15x - PL-550
USB connection from Cintiq to PC
Power outlet connected to Cintiq.
Other connections available but n/a in this case (DVI video connection n/a on tablet sensor)

Samsung 22" monitor with sensor under. Monitor has DVI and RGB (used in the application) and a power outlet

I am running windows 7 on my Acer aspire 5536 laptop dual core, 3gb ram, 1tb hardrive.

For some reason its not letting me attach images. tried a few times... :/
"Cannot access attachments upload path!"


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: bernard on March 18, 2013, 01:53:56 PM
hum, seems we had problems with attachments recently. I'll notify Drew.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Drewid on March 18, 2013, 02:12:13 PM
I think the host has moved us to a different server. I'll have a look.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 18, 2013, 03:50:36 PM
That might explain the dead 404 images around here! Changed servers but didn't update the links to the attachments.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 18, 2013, 08:16:44 PM
Uploaded images. Hope this helps.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img594/9519/img0820ev.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img441/5993/img0821o.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img21/6409/img0826ie.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img442/3885/img0823qj.jpg)


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: bernard on March 19, 2013, 01:39:57 AM
OK.  After looking at the picture, I see that the usb connector is non-standard and found in the manual that you have the choice between serial or USB -- just that the cable you pick makes the difference.  (I assume you do not have the serial cable, only the usb, right?)  If you ever want to go down the Teensy route, either you find the serial cable (http://www.coolgraphicstuff.com/wacom-rs232-serial-cable-mini-din-db9-for-cintiq-15x-stja204.html) (or it's pinout) or we have to open the device and look for signals -- it will take some tinkering to discover the right signals. It can take time, but it is doable.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 19, 2013, 05:08:04 AM
Hey. Thanks Bernard. You are AWESOME!  did you know that? You are all dedicated to these projects! I appreciate that!

Ok. So I use my tablet with my laptop and my laptop does not have the serial port. I can use my computer tower if need be, but it makes me less mobile and dependent on a tower and I only have one screen. But the laptop will offer two screens.

Ok so the cintiq sensor box has two lights. Amber is for when the unit is powered on. The other light is green for when the pen is pressed around the sensor only. These lights are where the buttons are for the sensor control box.

Ps. I dont have the serial cable. Forgot to mention that! :)



Thanks again


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 22, 2013, 07:18:29 PM
Any other info you need?
Or is this a loss cause?
Maybe I should just find a 15 inch and work with that...

Suggestions and comments are welcome.

Thanks


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: abeyance on March 22, 2013, 10:35:23 PM
My LCD is about 3/4 of an inch taller than my tablet. But I prefer to have my pointer and my pen directly on top of one another. So, I just don't the top portion of the screen even though the driver can map the entire screen. (I'm aware that I use a different tablet than most but I thought it might be helpful if someone using a Monoprice/UC-Logic tablet was cruising by.)

Frank


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 27, 2013, 10:56:59 PM
Did you see that??? I am sure it was a tumbleweed!

Crickets too!

:/


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: abeyance on March 28, 2013, 11:42:43 PM
Hey folks,

I know there have been a lot of people discussing using monitors that were larger than the sensor size (e.g. a 17" screen on a 12x12 Wacom), but has anyone actually completed a build this way?

If so, how annoying was it to work with? How do you personally work around it?

I'm looking at using a 22" screen (which would be about 11.66"x18.66") on a 12x18 Wacom, and I'm debating.
Should I go with the 22" and use a workaround to access the last 2/3 inch of screen space, or should I give up hope on the 22" and use a 20.1" instead?

I'm thinking that I want to stick with the 22" screen, and map the display area to the wacom 2 different ways. I'll line up the right edges of the screen and the sensor so that they're aligned on the right side. Then I'll map the right 17" of the sensor to the right 17" of the screen, 1 to 1. Then I'll map the remaining inch at the left side of the sensor to the remaining 1.66 inches on the left side of the screen. The cursor won't line up horizontally in the second section, but it should absolutely be useable for the limited amount of use that that end of the screen should see. Does that make sense?

I really don't want to have to stop to use a mouse for the last section of screen space, and this workaround seems usable to me. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

I use a bigger monitor as I have said. I just don't put anything on the unreachable parts of the screen. It makes it easier for me to draw. I could use the driver and map out the width of the screen but I like my cursor to be where the pen is. At this point it's just a personal preference. What are you doing with the tablet? Will mapping affect what you do? Do you need your cursor and pen to line up at all times?


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 29, 2013, 11:41:30 AM
I am in the same boat. I have a larger screen and smaller tablet. But there is no driver for making the "active area" smaller to match the tablet sensor. You see, I have a Cintiq and with a Cintiq the driver written will only ever need the entire screen. So there's no chance in hell I am going to get this to work.... Unless I can trick the Cintiq hardware "brain" to thinking it is actually an Intuos. Or something along the lines of that.
I personally am at a loss of how to go about writing this driver. If anyone could tell me what language the driver is written in, then I might have a chance. Otherwise I am lost...


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: bernard on March 29, 2013, 12:18:08 PM
Can't you calibrate the screen with a Cintiq?

B.


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: abeyance on March 29, 2013, 01:06:03 PM
Well, it is a Wacom tablet... you might be able to uninstall the Cintiq drivers and trying the other wacom tablet drivers to see if you can get the option for screen portion. Have you given that a go?


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 29, 2013, 09:51:29 PM

Lcd screen is 19 inches (which I am installing the Cintiq into as an upgrade due to Cintiq backlight dull issue)

Cintiq is 15 inches

Took apart 19 inch monitor and Cintiq 15. Placed 15 inch Cintiq sensor into the exact center of the 19 inch monitor and closed up the 19 inch monitor with Cintiq inside.

Downloaded latest drivers for Cintiq 15x and calibrated. The crosshairs are beyond the Cintiq censor, due to the 19 inch monitor is larger than the Cintiq 15 inch sensor.

Thus I cannot calibrate with the Cintiq driver.

Uninstalled Cintiq newer driver and tried older Cintiq driver. That didn't work, same problem with the crosshairs calibration.

Uninstalled Cintiq driver again and tried multiple other Wacom drivers for Intuos series. Drivers did not find the tablet and in some cases it just found it was a Cintiq 15x.

No options at any time to crop the screen active area like others have with Wacom tablets.

Uninstalled drivers and tried the waxbee software, but did not detect it.

Also tried to manually resize the screen within windows 7 to the active area, leaving it with blank area around. Didn't work because my 19 inch Samsung monitor has an auto resize feature and would just correct the size and the image would just pull to fit the screen.

So that is a very detailed step by step. Sorry about that, but I want no complications.

Other things to note. Cintiq sensor has a power light and a "pen active" light when pen presses on screen.

Hope this helps. It's a challenge!! Pave the way for other Cintiq screen upgrades! I can document whatever is needed. Even rip it apart again!




Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: abeyance on March 29, 2013, 11:53:54 PM
When you took apart 19 inch monitor and Cintiq and placed the sensor into the exact center of the monitor and closed it up... did it still work? I assume that there were just dead edges where the pen wouldn't go? Will that work for you? It seems you have tried everything I can think of. It might be necessary to just buy a 15 inch LCD if you want the whole area active.

Here is a fairly up to date list of LCDs and their success rates http://forum.bongofish.co.uk/index.php?topic=2214.0

And here is a vendor list of controller/inverter boards if needed if buying JUST the LCD http://wiki.bongofish.co.uk/doku.php?id=bongofish:lvdsvendors
(I recommend NYJTouch just because they are the cheapest and their customer service kicks much ass. Thanks Christine!!)


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 30, 2013, 04:11:34 AM
Thank you for your reply.

I forgot to mention, that the Cintiq driver works. The sensor works with the Cintiq driver. It detects it as a Cintiq 15x (like it is). But! The pointer is not calibrated, thus it is not aligned with my pen. The pointer moves when I move the pen, the pressure works too. All is good in that department, fully functional Cintiq sensor installed under the 19inch LCD monitor.
Now I can't use it if it doesn't have the pointer under the pen right? So that requires calibration. So when I do that, then the calibration won't work because it sees the screen size and places a crosshair where it would be if the Cintiq was 19 inches.


I don't know how else describe it. It works but won't calibrate!


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: abeyance on March 30, 2013, 04:47:52 AM
Got it. I understand now. Your cursor and pen don't overlap. You can't calibrate the pen because the cross hairs are our of range of the censor. Here is a trick I got from http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/ep121-slate/43622-pen-calibration-trick.html

1. uninstall your drivers, and restart your tablet (after you uninstall it, the pen wont work, so either have a mouse plugged in or use your fingers).

2. go to control panel, open tablet PC settings. Reset all the calibration data (touch and pen). When all the data has been reset, the reset button will be misted.

3. open command prompt (click start and type cmd in the search box).

4. type in, (or copy and paste, however to paste in command prompt you need to click the little black box icon in the top left corner, then select edit, then paste). Type in (make sure its all on 1 line):

tabcal lincal novalidate XGridPts=5,15,30,50,70,90,120,259,513,767,1021,118 0,1210,1240,1275 YGridPts=5,15,50,100,163,223,321,479,640,740,780,7 95

Then hit enter, it brings up the calibration screen but with heaps of points for you to touch. Make sure your pen is the first thing that touches the screen, then it will calibrate for the pen. After you hit the first crosshair with the pen, then you can rest your palm on the screen and do the rest. Just don't rest your palm on the screen until you touch the first crosshair, otherwise it will calibrate it for touch.
Give it a go and see if that helps. Remember you can set the cross hairs where ever you want with that command.

<3 Abey
 


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on March 31, 2013, 06:06:57 PM
I dont have a tablet PC. I have a laptop. The tablet is the Cintiq guts installed in a Samsung monitor.
Tablet PC settings are not available when clicked.

Any ideas???

Thanks for your hard work guys!


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: abeyance on March 31, 2013, 09:56:37 PM
Tablet PC settings is a control panel not a desktop computer. Maybe the steps were a bit muddled. Let me try and retype it so it's better to understand.

1. unplug the Cintiq from the computer, uninstall your Cintiq drivers, and restart your Computer.

2. plug the Cintiq back into your laptop and DO NOT INSTALL THE CINTIQ DRIVERS!!! go to Control Panel, open tablet PC settings. Reset all the calibration data (touch and pen). When all the data has been reset, the reset button will be greyed out and unavailable. Go to the next step.

3. open command prompt (from the start menu, type cmd in the search box).

4. type or paste this line of code into the command prompt and press enter (make sure it's all on 1 line):

Code:
tabcal lincal novalidate XGridPts=5,15,30,50,70,90,120,259,513,767,1021,118 0,1210,1240,1275 YGridPts=5,15,50,100,163,223,321,479,640,740,780,7 95

5. Now the calibration screen will be opened with many points for you to touch. Make sure your pen is the first thing that touches the screen, then it will calibrate for the pen. After you hit the first crosshair with the pen, then you can rest your palm on the screen and do the rest. Just don't rest your palm on the screen until you touch the first crosshair, otherwise it will calibrate it for touch. (Remember you can set the cross hairs where ever you want with that command.)

If you are having problems wit the command itself you can find answers for it here on this page's comments http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/ep121-slate/43622-pen-calibration-trick.html


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: Keifer on April 01, 2013, 05:23:53 AM
Well I tried this:

1) no wacom drivers present in system (checked) plugged in usb from cintiq sensor and powered it up. The system found the cintiq but it didnt function like a cintiq. Just like a mouse. can drag mouse over from monitor to monitor from cintiq (samsung monitor).
2) opened up tablet properties (from control panel) and the reset is grayed
3) ran command prompt as admin
4) copy pasted code you entered
5) got an error about invalid grid data
6) noticed it was selecting the laptop monitor
7) drop down menu in the tablet settings and selected samsung monitor
8 ) says it is not a tablet and there is no way to calibrate (within the tablet control panel settings)

Next thing I did was.

9) make the samsung monitor (with cintiq inside) my only monitor and do not extend to laptop display.
10) pasted the code in cmd and got a whole bunch of grid lines
11) tried to push my pen on samsung monitor (with cintiq inside) but nothing happens. There is no mouse, no pushing the pen against the monitor will get any response.
12) exited the grid lines calibration
13) mouse moves with pen like a mouse, but not calibrated.
14) then had trouble getting my mouse to work on the boxes to get back to my laptop monitor. Had to use tricky tab navigation to get back.
15) gave up!

So I am not sure why it will not work. The pen works but like a mouse, then when calibrating it is not present.

any more ideas? Thanks eh!


Title: Re: Screen larger than sensor?
Post by: kaikaisushi on August 16, 2013, 11:24:11 PM
I too have a similar problem. I have a 15.6" display and is bigger horizontally and smaller vertically than my intuos large 4. Is there a way to calibrate a portion of the display? Thanks