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1  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Need a schematic and pin out for a Wacom SU5E-12W32AS-01X on: April 13, 2018, 10:19:27 PM
Not sure if I want to buy a teensy. If I do how would I install the drivers?

Read all the other threads about it on the forum... Note again, you will have to make it work at 3.3v otherwise it may destroy the digitizer.
2  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Need a schematic and pin out for a Wacom SU5E-12W32AS-01X on: April 09, 2018, 08:03:31 PM
Just do it correctly this time, with a Teensy, and don't bother trying to make it work with random junk. It's literally 11$ for all the parts.

Chinese 10$ Teensy

3.3V regulator, 90 cents for 50

If you can't solder the regulator then you have to buy the expensive original 3.3V teensy, sorry.
3  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Need a schematic and pin out for a Wacom SU5E-12W32AS-01X on: February 20, 2018, 10:51:21 AM
Is there pressure sensitivity?

It doesn't support it, according to this thread. If i had to guess, that's most likely from the terrible Sympodium driver, but it's hard to say without trying it first-hand.
4  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Need a schematic and pin out for a Wacom SU5E-12W32AS-01X on: February 18, 2018, 08:53:05 PM
No problem, sorry i wasn't able to reply the past few days. To answer the previous question - i've never heard of anyone using a soundcard, the old ones have a MIDI/Joystick port but i'm not sure if it can be used as a serial port.

I've looked at those Sympodium tablets before, even started a thread here awhile back. From what i've read they're a bit problematic to deal with - physically it's a Wacom DTF tablet, but the Hardware ID in the firmware is different, so the Wacom driver can't recognize it. It only works with the Sympodium driver which they say is pretty bad, but i haven't had any experience with it. I believe it works well on Linux except for the special function buttons on the bezel. I've been tempted to get one to play with since its only 15$ but shipping costs to my country and import charges make it unreasonably expensive.
5  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Need a schematic and pin out for a Wacom SU5E-12W32AS-01X on: February 13, 2018, 10:38:37 PM
Pesho how about one of these? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6706X93506&cm_re=serial_to_usb-_-9SIA6706X93506-_-Product


I would just mod the cable a little so it could connect to the digitizer!

Also I think I want to try USB so what would the pinout be from the tc4400 to usb?

Thanks

NO, use this - https://www.ebay.com/itm/FT232RL-3-3V-5-5V-FTDI-USB-to-TTL-Serial-Adapter-Module-for-Arduino-Mini-Port-/381374421597

It has a jumper for selecting 3.3v, i've tested it. Are you planning to use it on Linux? Because i already said this method will not work on Windows. Even on Linux there is some set up involved where you need to make a startup script to initialize the tablet on the correct usbTTY port at startup, it's not "plug and play".

Also read what i wrote in my previous message - digitizers are either USB or Serial, not both. USB versions are rare, and the TC4400 is serial.

I strongly advise you to just get a chinese Teensy for 12$ and solder a 3.3v regulator on it.
6  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Need a schematic and pin out for a Wacom SU5E-12W32AS-01X on: February 13, 2018, 06:37:52 PM
As i already mentioned here, only in Linux. Also the page doesn't mention whether it's 5V or 3.3V. The digitizer works only with 3.3V.
7  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Need a schematic and pin out for a Wacom SU5E-12W32AS-01X on: February 13, 2018, 10:09:16 AM
The pinout for the TC4400's digitizer is the same, i actually have one here and have tested it. It's the same for all 14pin serial digitizers, there are some that support USB directly but they are pretty rare. You can find the full info HERE.

Yeah, the digitizer just sticks on the back, but i think the TC4400's screen is one of the best screens you can get for that size and format. It's AFFS so viewing angles are very good (important for a screen you'll be looking at from all sides). They don't make 12.1'' desktop monitors so i'm guessing whatever you use is going to be the wrong size. You're also going to have to mess about installing protective glass so it can be used with a pen - regular monitors don't have it, while the TC4400 screen does. An LVDS controller is 20-35$, it's not that expensive...
8  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Need a schematic and pin out for a Wacom SU5E-12W32AS-01X on: February 11, 2018, 08:29:29 PM
Pesho Which one is the teensy and which one is the screen wires

The numbered ones are at the digitizer's connector, GND VCC TX and RX are on the Teensy's side. I reused the laptop's cable that already had the connector for the digitizer on one end, as seen HERE. The board on the digitizer should have silkscreened markings next to the connector that indicate which is pin 1 and which is pin 14.

No, you can't use a Netduino, that's a completely different chip. The Waxbee firmware is designed for the ATmega32U4 chip which is on the Teensy, and a specific version of the board (2.0 with 3.3V logic). The chinese clones of the Teensy 2.0 work, but they need modification to convert them to 3.3V (you need to solder on a regulator). I think the 3.3V version of the Arduino Pro Micro was also proven to work after putting in the Teensy bootloader and firmware on it.
9  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: ThinkPad's EMR pen and Wacom's UD tablet on: January 31, 2018, 11:35:47 AM
You mentioned X61T pens, do you use the pens with a UD tablet? Would like to know if pressure works properly with a UD.

No, i don't have any UD tablets, only TabletPC digitizers (SU-xxx) salvaged from laptops. I just found it interesting that the X41T pens have two buttons and tilt while the X61T ones (which are supposed to be newer) don't. There are very few tabletPC pens with two buttons, it's only these and some Fujitsu ones that i'm aware of. The Cintiq 15/17/18X pens (UP-911) work there too, but they're ridiculously expensive.

About the sensitive pressure - i've had a similar issue when trying a Bamboo One pen on a Volito 1 tablet. Both are supposedly FP-series but the bamboo pen is so touchy that it does random clicks while hovering even from just breathing on it. In linux there is a "threshold" parameter in the driver where you can determine the minimum pressure that constitutes a click. It helped for the most part, but it was pretty obvious that the pen just isn't 100% compatible. I've also tested the same FP-series pen on a tabletPC digitizer and while it detects the pen position, it recognizes the tip as an eraser and doesn't register clicks or pressure. I could actually get it to detect clicks and pressure if i placed my finger over the pen's PCB traces to vary the resistance (or is it capacitance, not sure what those pens are designed to look for...).

What i take from all of this is that while the technology is the same between product lines, Wacom likes to vary the logic slightly each time for unknown reasons.
10  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Need a schematic and pin out for a Wacom SU5E-12W32AS-01X on: January 20, 2018, 10:25:46 AM
If it's from a 2740p then it should be the standard serial pinout:

Pin 1 -> GND
Pin 13 -> VCC 3.3V
Pin 10 -> TX
Pin 9 -> RX

That's how it is for the 2730p screens i've tested. Since these are serial tablets, you need the Teensy in order to emulate a USB device and have the drivers work with it. You can use serial on Linux since the driver supports it, but for Windows you need to use Wacom's driver.
11  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: ThinkPad's EMR pen and Wacom's UD tablet on: January 20, 2018, 10:18:09 AM
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tilt is also good.

X41T pens have tilt? Wow i had no idea, the X61T ones dont have it. It also appears the X41T pen has two buttons instead of 1 - do they work?
12  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Use wacom pen on wacom digitizer hardware on: November 05, 2017, 02:37:46 PM
You have to check in the Device Manager what kind of VID and PID the digitizer is using. Here's an example image



If the Vendor ID (VID) does not match Wacom's, you're out of luck. You may try editing the .inf file for the driver to include new VID and PID signatures but it's not guaranteed to work. People have tried do do this for the Sympodium tablets (rebranded Wacom DTF-series screens) without success.

About pen compatibility - older ~2004-2009 era TabletPC's used the U-series tech that was in the earlier Cintiq 15X, 17X and 18SX from 2000-2001, so they were compatible. You can tell by the "UP" prefix for those pens, for example UP-911E. The Wacom Pro Pen is for the latest H-series tablets (Cintiq/MobileStudio Pro, Intuos Pro, aka DTH and PTH model numbers respectively) and thus won't work. It's more likely that the Samsung S-pen still uses the same U-series protocol but nobody here has tried that combination in order to confirm. If jedikalimero  has tried the pen from an STU-series signature tablet and it worked with the Note4, then it's very likely the Note4 and other S-Pen devices use that protocol and will work with a Cintiq 15X pen like the UP-911E.

With more modern tablet PCs like the surface pro it's harder to guess, as they are likely to use some newer Wacom technology like AES or possibly have an N-trig digitizer which is from a completely different company.
13  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Salvaging touchscreen from a Toshiba Portege M780 on: August 08, 2017, 04:55:21 PM
You won't have any trouble getting the digitizer to work with a teensy, but you need to make sure you have a datasheet for your particular screen. I have this LCD assembly from a Portege R400 and though the digitizer works great, finding a datasheet for that particular Toshiba screen has been a major pain in the ass.

 If you can find a datasheet for your screen you should be all set - just order a controller board and a Teensy and start thinking about how to build the housing. Often using the laptop's upper half as a housing and screwing a box with the controller on the back is a good solution.
14  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: dropped 21UX 2nd gen not responding to stylus. on: August 08, 2017, 04:02:05 PM
Those things are solid-state components, i doubt it's that. AFAIK the buttons and sliders are separate boards that connect to a board that's located on the left side. Better check it for loose connections and broken off SMD components. My bet is that there's no connection between that board and the actual digitizer grid that's located behind the screen.
15  Screen Tablet malarky / Heyaaaalpppp / Re: Laptop screen to wacom cintiqfor drawing on: June 14, 2017, 02:57:53 PM
The difference is in the chip they use - some have the Realtek RTD2660 chip, others have a VST29 which i haven't of and the third use the Novatek NT68676 found in some njytouch controllers. All of them will probably work fine.
im gonna buy the italian One with all' kit It Will bè 70€ Shocked

I've had success with this one - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HDMI-LVDS-Controller-Board-40-Pins-Lvds-Cable-Kits-for-Raspberry-PI-3-LP156WH2-TLA1-TLE11366/32645792288.html

It gets hot at the 12V to 5V regulator but other than that it works ok. Check what's available on Aliexpress - often stuff is cheaper than eBay, and the controllers all come from the same chinese manufacturers. If you're willing to wait that is.
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