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 on: April 18, 2017, 12:57:51 PM 
Started by jonc22 - Last post by XDjackieXD
Older Wacom digitizers (especially the Intuos 3 series) seem to be available pretty cheaply used (I got an A4 version for 25€ and a A5 version for 20€ some time ago).
As for alternatives there are quite a few but most of which I tried didn't come close to Wacom (I heard some good things about XP-Pen and Huion but I never tried those two).

 on: April 17, 2017, 10:48:32 AM 
Started by jonc22 - Last post by Ertew
I know that there exist many alternatives but I remember only Wacom. Small hint for You:

New Wacom tablets and used but still pretty new USB models are expensive.
Try to search for much older serial and ADB models. You can use it with modern PCs if You add WaxBee converter (teensy or adruino micro board with proper software).
P.S. Buy only complete sets with pen, cables and power supply. Spare pen can be more expensive than obsolete but fully working tablet.

 on: April 17, 2017, 01:23:52 AM 
Started by jonc22 - Last post by jonc22
What's a good alternative to the Wacom tablets something that will work as good but be a lot cheaper for a first time build. Don't fancy spending big money on a second hand Wacom and reckon it

 on: April 10, 2017, 12:11:41 PM 
Started by DaBotz - Last post by DaBotz
I recently acquired yet another Intuos 2 12x18 (yeah - finally, one of those bargains that seem to happen only to others - 50 bucks with shipping).

Me being me, I looked around for a monitor to place over it, and I opted for the 19.5" LG 20MP48

It is a LED backlit IPS monitor, although not a high-resolution one (1440x900 ) and only has one VGA input (shopping for a third party controller? maybe, if push comes to shove)  

This monitor represents yet another move toward sparing material, on LG part... the back of the LCD panel also acts as back case of the whole monitor, and the tiny VGA adapter is hosted inside a cover attached to its bottom that also hold the - as usual, not removible -  stand pivot. It is kept by three screws on the back, nothing more.

More important for the ones like us, the front plastic frame is - too - already part of the panel, being THE front frame for the panel... removing it was simpler than I expected and already exposed the lcd an the flexible connectors from the TCON to the LCD, 3 of them that they are (I didn't expect it, so I started from that and I found myself with the LCD wanting to fall out  in a moment I had my hands otherwise occupied).

As I expected, though, the 30 pin - 1mm pitch - FFC connector between  the VGA and the TCOn is long maybe 10 cm (I doubt it), so sourcing a longer connector is in order, for me, before trying more stuff.

The LED strip is at the bottom of the screen (with the TCON board) and it is connected wih three individial cables of the same kind used in the LG IPS224v that I used in my last re-build, i.e half the number.

In all, if the EMI are of the order of the ones from its bigger brother, this build should be all but virtually done.

Given the very smal footprint of this monitor VGA, its reduced thickness , and the fact that I already have a void case lying around, I think that I will build this one inside the Intuos 2 case.

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 on: April 04, 2017, 09:32:59 PM 
Started by DaBotz - Last post by DaBotz
Another small update.

In the end, I found myself with the driver "losing" button 2 of the spens (independent from the stylus and tablet, as I have 3 different stylus and an aerograph, and three Intuos 2... an none worked).

Turns out, there is a Wacom Virtual HID driver that had to be disabled (it got me, also, rid of the "second circles" shown when I retract the pen point from the screen).

Done tha, everything went back to normal.

 on: April 04, 2017, 09:37:53 AM 
Started by jonc22 - Last post by jonc22
Was original going to use my old 22" Samsung monitor which as a separate power supply but the screen is too big so I will just keep my eye out for a smaller one...... Thanks again

 on: April 03, 2017, 09:13:22 PM 
Started by jonc22 - Last post by DaBotz
If you go for a new monitor, a couple of informations:

The power units are discrete sources of electromagnetic interference, so monitors with a separated "power brick" tend to give better results (alternatively, you may opt for a design that keeps the power unit as away as possible, as I did in my first UBiQ)

The bulbs ( CCFL ) in most old screens, too, are nice sources of emi (what with their 700-1200 Volt... however, if one is unlucky, the 60 volts of a LED backlit panel can still interfere plenty, if they use the precisely wrong frequency).

IPS panels are not really a luxury (unless you are a B&W only author), in this use.

Also, keep in mind that most laptop screens are 6-bits per colour channel (64 levels instead of 256, or 256k colors instead of 16 millions)... which means that it is up to the firmware, in the panel or the controller, to emulate the missing colour resolution.

Some do a decent job at it, some don't, and some do not even really try (like the controller in my Mini-Q).

 on: April 02, 2017, 09:35:06 PM 
Started by jonc22 - Last post by jonc22
Thank you for the reply got a few screens from my old laptops now  so am either go a send of for the controller boards or keep and eye out for a smaller monitor

 on: March 31, 2017, 12:57:22 PM 
Started by jonc22 - Last post by DaBotz
If, for LED, you mean "LED backlight", it is the consensus that they are to be preferred to CCFL illuminated screens.

If you mean "OLed" - I don't know of any such build.

check things using the


Options for a 23" - None that covers the whole screen

Options for a 22" -  (22" are 16:10, 21.5" are 16:9)
That cover the whole screen, the cheapest would be the Intuos 3 12x19.

It also has hotkeys, which make dismantling the Wacom and assembling the DiY a bit more challenging, but allow some very interesting option like having a "swap screen" button, that is useful on multi-monitors set-ups.

Also, there is no problem with drivers availability.

Cons: they cost easily twice or more the next alternative, or a 1/3rd of an Intuos 4 Extra Large (12x19.2).

If you can accept to have a couple of cm that are left out of the active area, where you have to reach with a mouse or something, you can use Intuos 2  (series XD) or Intuos 1 (series GD) 12 x18" . To remain inside the active areas, these accept at maximum a 21" 16:10 or 4:3 monitor.

Alternatively, LG is selling the LG 20MP48, that is a 19,5", 16:10 (1440x900) LED IPS screen that could be a nice prospect - I am going to try my hand with this combination, Intuos 2 + LG,  some time soon (next week or so)- You may hold on for a while, and see if I post news on it

However, while the drivers  for these older tablet may be installed in newer OSes like Windows 10, it may require a bit of wizardry (I stick with Intuos 2 and Windows 7).

If you are an open source enthusiast, in Linux the driver issue and the availability of hotkeys do not matter, as the Linux wacom project driver handles virtually everything Wacom has ever produced, and scripting allows to implement the swap screen buttons - and similar features - quite easily.

16" - there are really no options for that specific size.

15.4" (16:10) Intuos 4 L (PTK 840) - it may cost as a big Intuos 3, though, and it is not such a great improvement over the Intuos 3 - it is smaller than the panel by some 17-20 pixels that, well spaced, becomes a negligible 8 pixels-wide border.

15.6"  (16:9) - The same Intuos 4L , but the "unreachable" part of the screen becomes much more noticeable, especially on the vertical border(s).

15" 4:3 -> Every 9x12 and 12x12 tablet (Intuos "Large" up to the 3 series) fits perfectly ( a bit too much... requires a precise assembly). 

As a side note, in Windows a program called "Power strip" allows to restrict the output of the computer so that it matches an arbitrary resolution inside that of your screen, effectively "cutting" out unwanted (unreachable) parts of the monitor.

I never used it, but it is a possibility.

 on: March 30, 2017, 05:56:08 PM 
Started by jonc22 - Last post by jonc22
Sorry I couldn't see any other option to pick than create a poll Cry
Anyway I came across this site after getting a shock to how dear the wacom clinics are. I managed to find a few diy your self options and thought i would at least give it a try.
Only have a couple of questions really first one is would a led screen be ok and second question is what's the or cheapest wacom option for a 16" screen and a 22/23" screen
Thank you

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