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 21 
 on: August 08, 2017, 04:41:06 PM 
Started by jedikalimero - Last post by Ertew
Yeah. All we can do at this moment is wait for more info or photos and keep guessing Smiley

XDjackieXD: You have different experience than me. Can You wrote Your guesses what may be wrong?

 22 
 on: August 08, 2017, 04:02:05 PM 
Started by jedikalimero - Last post by Pesho
Those things are solid-state components, i doubt it's that. AFAIK the buttons and sliders are separate boards that connect to a board that's located on the left side. Better check it for loose connections and broken off SMD components. My bet is that there's no connection between that board and the actual digitizer grid that's located behind the screen.

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 on: August 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM 
Started by jedikalimero - Last post by XDjackieXD
Oh oscillators are not *that* fragile. I abused some of them quite a bit but they are fragile compared to most other components on a board ^^

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 on: August 06, 2017, 02:30:30 PM 
Started by jedikalimero - Last post by Ertew
Quartz oscillator is the most fragile component of most electronic boards (except displays and connectors).
Broken solder joints or traces on PCB may be unrepairable. Especially when board is attached to heat sensitive flex circuit (antennas).

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 on: August 06, 2017, 12:09:47 PM 
Started by jedikalimero - Last post by XDjackieXD
well replacing an oscillator isn't hard but remotely diagnosing a defective oscillator is...

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 on: August 05, 2017, 11:37:20 PM 
Started by jedikalimero - Last post by Ertew
I have two Tablet-PC screens.
T5010 have typical construction: single PCB for Wacom chips and flat-flex circuit for antennas.
ST5111 have two solid boards, one with chips, second with antennas. Both boards are connected via board to board connector.
If You have second option, then connector may just need to reconnect and that's all. If connector wasn't the problem I guess broken quartz oscillator (hard to replace in home, easy for electronic service). If still nothing then repair of broken digitizer may be impossible or even more expensive than new digitizer.

 27 
 on: August 05, 2017, 11:12:30 PM 
Started by PsychoNerd91 - Last post by Ertew
Hello.

As I found after very short research, base models of M700, M750 and M780 have the same or very similar screens - LCD + Wacom EMR digitizer + resistive single-touch. Probably M700 have CCFL backlight while M780 have LED backlight.
I talk about base models, 1280 x 800 px. M750 have hi-res screens as option, 1400 x 1050 px. If that screen have LED backlight, You should look for it. As I figured 1280 x 800px have very limited compatibility - some video cards autodetect this resolution, most not but I can force specific resolution, few doesn't accept and cannot force specific resolution. That's sad.


Back to topic. LCD (glass + drivers), LCD backlight, EMR digitizer and touch digitizer are separate devices. You need special adapter for each.
1. This TabletPC is relatively old. I assume that LCD gave LVDS interface. You need to use VGA->LVDS or HDMI->LVDS converter to connect LCD to PC. I mean active converter + special cable between converter and LCD. You can buy universal converter with wide range of supported resolution (select via jumpers or upload via USB stick) or specialized converter (programmed by seller). You cannot make connector for LCD panel. You can easily buy special cable (price may vary depend on type of connector) or buy LCD with cable, cut motherboard connector and make DIY wiring.
2. CCFL backlight have separated driver, always hidden near LCD module. You need to find pinout for that module and connect it. LED backlight have independent circuit located at the same circuit board as rest of LCD things. It use the same connector too, just have separate pins. Pinout are available at LCD datasheet. BTW, LCD is useless without datasheet or at least pinout.
3. There are tree types of EMR digitizers.
You can found one with USB interface - add 3V3 voltage regulator and proper USB connector, that's all.
You can also found one with RS232 interface - add RS232 to RS232-TTL and digitizer will be usable on Linux or WinXP, or add WasBee converter and digitizer will be available on Linux, modern win (probably Mac too).
Last type have unknown interface between EMR digitizer and touch digitizer but known interface between one of them and motherboard - usually USB but sometimes RS232. So don't worry. WaxBee doesn't cost fortune and playing with these things are worth.
4. Portege series use single touch resistive panel - can be used with any tool that aren't too sharp to scratch it. That panel are made of solid back plane, air gap and thin foil on top.
As You wrote, You don't need that part so You can safety disconnect panel from dedicated hardware, maybe remove some parts inside. Really no issues here.
But I have to say something about that touch panel itself. IMHO drawing over resistive touchscreen wasn't the best option. I recommend You to replace touch panel with layer of glass/plastic or chose different tablet to play with it. But that's my opinion based on regular resistive touch devices. Maybe that screen have special durable version, who knows.

 28 
 on: August 05, 2017, 08:36:50 PM 
Started by jedikalimero - Last post by XDjackieXD
could you take some high-res photos of the insides? that would make debugging a bit easier.

 29 
 on: August 04, 2017, 07:55:07 PM 
Started by jedikalimero - Last post by jedikalimero
I have a second generation Cintiq 21UX DTK-2100 and recently in a very unfortunate accident it fell to the floor being hit in the lower left corner. Yhe plastic case in that corner broke in pieces but the LCD is still intact and working correctly. The Wacom driver still detects the Cintiq and all the ExpressKeys and ExpressSliders work but it doesn't react at all when I touch the screen with the stylus. (I have tried with several styluses, Grip Pen, Airbrush, Art Pen, Grip Pen Pro, Classic Pen but no way. All of them working in Intuos Pro, 5 and 4, of course).

So I think the problem is located at the tablet driver board (identified as PWB-B034D) that is still partially working since the device itself is detected and all the keys and sliders work. Or either in the sheet under the LCD that makes the EM matrix, but this is less likely since it is just a sheet of printed circuit matrix without any components on it.

I guess Wacom would charge me more than the cost of a fully working second hand 21UX for the motherboard so any suggestions?
The Motherboard has LOTS of test points but I don't know how to test it since I haven't found any information about it.

 30 
 on: August 03, 2017, 10:09:09 AM 
Started by PsychoNerd91 - Last post by PsychoNerd91
So, this has been on my mind forever (well, since getting the laptop anyway.)
If I knew of this forum, I would have done it sooner.

So the idea is just to use the screen as a second (*cough* third *cough*) monitor for my desktop.
The laptop itself is perfectly fine, but under powered for the software I'd like to use (photoshop, paint tool sai, streaming software).
I'd like to have the function, but have my desktop handle the grunt of the work.
I'd still like to use the laptop as well, I just don't need the touchscreen function on it.

Anyway. To the actual question.
What difficulties should I expect when starting this project?
What hardware might I need to buy? Is there specific hardware for the digitizer?
I've read this post which mentions Portege, but not the M780 specifically. Is the hardware comparable?
Will I need to code anything? If so, what? Or is it all handled by the hardware?
What's a comparable screen for the laptop?

I'm sorry, I know these questions have probably been answered before.
It's always daunting about starting anything where I don't know where to begin.

Any help will be appreciated. Thank you for making this forum exist!

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