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Author Topic: wanted: 12x18 wacom intuos 1+ (usb) working of course  (Read 8805 times)
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« on: March 04, 2010, 02:59:04 AM »

I am tired of waiting for  a 12x18 intuos to come available on eBay. I wait and wait and watch over priced stuff go or unavailable for shipping to Canada ( I hate that one) or defective unknowns. Once I was biding on a sweet xd-1218-u well I fell a sleep and when I woke up it had sold for like 100 bucks.... needless to say I was choked at myself.

I could have gotten a 9x12 even at 12x12 but I want the golden goose, the holy grain of digitizers the highly coveted 12x18 Intuos, I think the intuos2 would be the sweet spot but beggars can't be choosers.  So I thought I would throw it out there. You know the drill as long as it works casing condition not important. ping me at you convenience. Or if anyone has advice or ideas where I might pick on of these bad boys up... and "buy one at the Wacom website for a zillion dollars" does not count as good advice. Thanks. I just want to start building my monster!
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 04:15:12 AM »

OK that's funny I just won a 12x18 intuos 2 (no pen) for 102.00 so I am good to go now, of course it was right after I wrote the above post. Well what do you guys think, good price? Or did I get taken to the cleaners?
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 05:54:17 AM »

Is it Serial, ADB or USB? (What is the board model number?)  Obviously you now have to find a compatible pen. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 09:49:25 AM »

Take a look at item 350261823860 on the bay. They ship to canada
Supposing the tablet is a usb version, 152 dollars isn't such a bad price. I've ssen them go for a lot more.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 12:13:26 PM »

no its USB as per the eBay ad. I am now at the stage where it must decide on a lcd. I am surprised more people have not put together 12 x 18 builds. I know they are a bit more $ but the elbow room is nice, especially on portrait work. I think the sweet spot seems to be 21.5 16:9 1680x1050 but I'm not sure. The resolution 1680 x 1050 seems like it will work but I don't want to get an LCD that has a higher res than I will use anyway. Does anyone know where the sweet spot is for the resolution ? There must be a natural res that the drivers work best at.

Although an LG L204WT 20.1" @
1680 x 1050 res
17.5 x 10.94 active screen area look good... I think, man I want to get it right this time. I already went through the motions with a 19" that will not cut it on an 18 x 12 so now that I have the tablet locked I must get the right screen.  Anyone made the perfect fit yet in these XL's?

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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 01:38:21 PM »

21.5" is too wide for a 12x18. 20.1" is the best fit you'll get.
I'm working on a 22" 1680x1050, and have tried a 21.5" full HD screen too (which I broke) but I didn't feel like it was that much better than 1680x1050.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 05:11:54 PM »

Did you hold a 12x18 in your hands? I think it feels HUGE (for a tablet I mean). Personally (but that's just me), for an "Ideal Tablet", I would be like to have not-too-big tablet (manipulation of the tablet is important to me) -- 15 inch 4:3 is great (but 13 inch 16:9 would be too small). I would like the big resolution - because my eyes would be a few inches away from the screen when drawing, so the high dot pitch is perfect for me. Of course this would be a second screen, I would want the biggest screen I could get (standing on the desk) as my primary display. Again, that's just Personal Taste in an Ideal World.

But I can easily understand why people would want to build huge screenTablets -- especially if this is meant to be the primary/only display. Besides they make exciting build logs  Grin   Can't wait to see what will happen next!

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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 04:34:34 AM »

21.5" is too wide for a 12x18. 20.1" is the best fit you'll get.
I'm working on a 22" 1680x1050, and have tried a 21.5" full HD screen too (which I broke) but I didn't feel like it was that much better than 1680x1050.

could you clarify for me please. If 20.1 is the best fit then why were you working with at 22" is that too big? If the 20.1 is ideal which Aspect Ratio should I use ? 16:10, 16:9 4:3  ext? Are you sure there isn't a 21.5 that will fit perfectly? Just trying to hammer out the right one I can only afford to make 0 more mistakes i regards to the LCD. How did you break you screen? Thanks for your help.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 09:42:10 AM »

I'm using an intuos3, which is 12x19, so 22" fits the wacom precisely, widht wise. a 21.5" also works.


Here's a list of all tablets and which screens would fit.
http://forum.bongofish.co.uk/index.php?topic=170.0

For your intuos2, a 21" 16:10 would fit. It also states a 4:3, but that's higher than 12" so I'm not sure why it's mentioned.
If you want to do the math yourself, you can calculate the diagonal in pixels, and use that to calculate the height and width.
For a 1680x1050 22" screen you'd get:
(1680^2 + 1050^2)^0.5 = 1981 pixels in diagonal. Now for the width you'd divide 22" by 1981, and multiply with the width in pixels.
22 / 1981 * 1050 = 11.66"
And for the height,
22/ 1981 * 1680 = 18.66"
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2010, 07:52:55 PM »

Thanks I have seen the formulas and I thank you for helping me to understand and breakdown the size issue OK I am ready to buy one. I have noticed that prices have dropped on 20-22 inch LCD's so much that used ones on eBay end up costing you as much as buying one from tiger or egg or what have you. You know what i mean? Anyway I think I will end up just buying a new one although it is a waist to go with a nice shinny unit. I have been looking for a damaged unit that was cracked on the outside the bezel or stand but it is few and far between. one with a pristine screen. In truth the shipping ends up killing the value on ebay (I am in Victoria BC Canada) eg. 75 for the lcd and 50 for shipping = lame deal.  Thanks cellofaan

By the way have you seen this table?

http://www.silisoftware.com/tools/screen.php
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2010, 10:32:38 PM »

Good find! I shall yoink it and put it somewhere sticky.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2010, 10:37:57 PM »

It is already in a sticky?
I've seen the link on the forum for sure.

Shipping is a bitch. I usually only buy stuff I can pick up myself, or something which still in the relatively cheap package tariff of 7euros.
When you're buying a monitor, don't buy a compaq. They are very very very difficult to take apart. Took me hours.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2010, 10:57:44 PM »

Damn I lost auction for a 4 x % intuos 2 set (for the pen and mouse): http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110503437343&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.ca%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm38%26_nkw%3D110503437343%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

I was sure I had it, a serial 4x5 intuos2 ...man by the time it got to me it was over 65 bucks. I can buy a new pen for less. Speaking of pens any one got a intuos2 pen for sale I suppose i should make a new thread yes?

Cellofaan..."something which still in the relatively cheap package tariff of 7euros" , where do you live man?

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2010, 11:06:28 PM »

The Netherlands. Small country, small distances. Even from Austria stuff comes for only couple of euros.
Any idea of the shipping rates from Europe to Canada? I can keep an eye open for you.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2010, 11:37:25 PM »

Well the eBay auction above, she was charging me 13 pounds= to me about 20 dollars Canadian.  The Netherlands eh? Your command of, at least, the written English language in commendable. You know sometimes I could swear that in the past I have wronged someone and as a result they sit on there computer in a dark room somewhere and outbid me just to make my life difficult. LOL ...I know this sound paranoid but I often have to wonder how i loose on some of these auctions.

 The dangerous part for me is my need for instant gratification it has lead me to overpay on more than one occasion. Have you experienced this feeling ? When the dust settles and you have won the item and you realize that you paid much more than you should and you start to contemplate canceling your purchase or making some lame excuse but then the old honor and honesty thing kicks in so you reluctantly pay up and kick your self swearing that you will never do this again. No? Ah well it happens to me . Anyway sorry to babble I get carried away sometimes.
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