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Author Topic: Ok I bought an Lcd on ebay so I need the groups help before I get it  (Read 3789 times)
titus1972
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« on: February 13, 2010, 04:40:21 AM »

NEC MultiSync 1940CX:

http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/nec-multisync-1940cx-bk/4507-3174_7-31594522.html?tag=mncolBtm;rnav

and a pic or 3:

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn172/2930luo/DSCF1765.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn172/2930luo/DSCF1766.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn172/2930luo/DSCF1767.jpg

I am bidding on and will get a Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet 12x12 A-4. Liick this one (I can't belive I was sleeping for this on 79 is a nice price for a 12x12:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270524138362&rvr_id=&mfe=sidebar

SO BOTTOM LINE WILL THESE WORK? sorry about that I get a little exited about these projects. I think they will marry nicely and advive out there before I go all the way with this one? Thanks   ...I'm thinkin names like "The Titique" or how about something french like "pathetique" No?
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 05:38:49 AM »

Titus -- isn't that some french cartoons?

Will these work?  Dunno. Impossible to tell unless you know if someone already tried that combination (talking about jitter here). That is the first reason not to spend to much money.

First, look at the size of the devices: You want the "active area" of the tablet to be the same or higher than the size of the screen, else you will have "dead" space.


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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 03:54:00 PM »

Like Bernard said, you'll want the monitor to be the same size or smaller than the wacom. A 19" screen won't fit on a 12x12.
Of course, depending on your video drivers, you could use the screen on a smaller resolution than its native res, so you'd have black bars on the sides, and the actual usable screen area is 12" wide.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 09:34:16 PM »

ah yes -- I didn't look at your lcd spec -- it is indeed a 19 inch (5:4 aspect ratio) -- which essentially means:

14.84 inches Width
11.86 inches Height
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2010, 10:34:54 PM »

Oh man Ok ...I think So the screen need to be smaller that the Wacom board. Does the screen need to fit inside the active field of the board? really? What will happen if I use a 12 x 12 Intuos 1 or 2 and the LCD I have described worst case ? wont the field simply fall short of working on one side of the screen? for example could I not just have the bottom few inches not work with the pen? Who draws right to the edge anyway right? Mind you this is my first kick at this can so what do you think is it problematic? I can use a different screen if needed I arranged to just pay cash at the guy's house 55 bucks we will just cancel the eBay auction. Is that the right price for this model?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270527015638&rvr_id=&mfe=sidebar

What do you think? Take it and build on or pass and get a 17". Keep in mind  I will almost certainly end up with 12 x 12.

...Just a though, do you think this 19" LCD would work with one of those over sized 12 x 18s?

Thanks for your help guys really solid advice.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2010, 10:50:08 PM »

Generally, it works at its best when you can access the entire screen with your pen. If the screen is bigger than the active area of the wacom, there are two options.

One is to use your drivers to use a smaller part of the monitor, which doesn't always work, my laptop and 18" screen can't do it for example.
The other option, which you mentioned, is to map the wacom to the part of the screen it can access. That is easily done, but you'd need to use a mouse. By the way, it won't be the top or bottom inches, but the left and/or right. Your screen is wider than 12 inch. If you can live with that, than there's no problem.

Not sure on the prices in other countries, but in the Netherlands, 40 euros (55 US dollar) is a fair price. On the cheap side I think.

Then your last question. It would fit on a 12x18 wacom. You can map the wacom to only use the area which is covered by the screen.

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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2010, 05:13:33 AM »

You may be in luck:

related posts:
http://forum.bongofish.co.uk/index.php?topic=959.msg10489#msg10489
http://forum.bongofish.co.uk/index.php?topic=1512.msg9887#msg9887

In short: there is another way of working this out: you are actually missing about 2.84 inches horizontally -- which is 1.42 inches on each side. 

IF your wacom is an Intuos 2 or older -- you can use an old driver that contains a special feature called Advanced Mapping -- which would enable (after much tweaking) to map the "dead" space using a non 1:1 mapping.    In other words, only a portion of the width would not align to the pen -- the cursor would feel like it is going further away as you approach the edges -- this would only occur in the last 2 to 3 inches (depending on how you configure it).

The examples we were talking about were about 1cm -- not 1.5 inches  (which is much bigger) -- I am not sure if this is "suitable" for you  -- you have to think about it.  Also, this driver thingy is about an old driver. Not sure what is the support in newer OSes and Windows 64 bit, etc, etc.
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